Considering a 2005 6.0l

[ironlemon]

First off nice site.

Well im in the market for a new truck and Ive located a 2005, f350, 4x4, 6.0, manuel trans, single rear wheel, single cab. Its got 95k on it very nicely take care of, exterior is beautiful along with the interiror.
The previous owner blew the head gaskets and traded it off. Ive got the dealer installing stock gaskets with arp studs. They have also just replaced the egr cooler with a new stock one.
From what ive read, I need to replace or add:
egr delete
updated or aftermarket oil cooler
coolant filter kit
pcm tune
gauges
exhaust (last on the list)
I will be sending the pcm to wait4meperformace.com and have it overhauled. Were looken at 175hp gain. They yellow antifreeze will be replaced with something much more expensive and better. Is there anything else than needs to be beefed up or replaced?

What all do I need to look at while test driving it, besides the usual?

[Raul@Stealth Automotive]

welcome to the Org.... i have never heard of wait4meperformance... what are they going to do with the PCM? and they are claiming they can get you 175hp with upgrading the PCM?

ill add to your list
coolant filter kit
custom tuned SCT X3
gauges
exhaust

[ironlemon]

never heard of them? Really, ive sent 3 pcms to them. $150 and you get more than any programer or mountable computer will ever put out. And and lifetime free updates,or changes. Everyone on zr2usa.com reccomends them. Check them out or email/call them. Real good and fast work. yes 175 more hp than stock. Thats with the head studs and egr delete of corse.

Ive always been a chevy man but chevy has f/ed me real bad lately and they quality has went downhill very badly so, ill give ford a chance. Ive got a 7.3 already and love it, but i cant find one with low mile and my needs.

Finding a single cab, diesel, man trans, 4x4 is very hard to find. And i cant stand front independent suspension anymore.

[ironlemon]

So if the dealer is (dumb) sorry if that offends anyone, and does not instal the arp kit (cause of cost), how long would the truck last with all the fixes on my list except an arp stud kit? Is there any other stud kit avaliable, cause the arp one is somewhere around $400?

[OUMX117]

If you truly are going to buy this truck and they already have it apart to do headgaskets I'd give them some money out of your wallet to purchase the ARP head studs. no doubt about it.

[Buzzyt517]

Originally Posted by ironlemon

First off nice site.

Well im in the market for a new truck and Ive located a 2005, f350, 4x4, 6.0, manuel trans, single rear wheel, single cab. Its got 95k on it very nicely take care of, exterior is beautiful along with the interiror.
The previous owner blew the head gaskets and traded it off. Ive got the dealer installing stock gaskets with arp studs. They have also just replaced the egr cooler with a new stock one.
From what ive read, I need to replace or add:
egr delete
updated or aftermarket oil cooler
coolant filter kit
pcm tune
gauges
exhaust (last on the list)
I will be sending the pcm to wait4meperformace.com and have it overhauled. Were looken at 175hp gain. They yellow antifreeze will be replaced with something much more expensive and better. Is there anything else than needs to be beefed up or replaced?

What all do I need to look at while test driving it, besides the usual?

While the dealer is in there are they putting in a new oil cooler???
That seems to be the cause for blowing the egr cooler which in turn blows the HG's. I'd ask them about that. If not then that'd be something along with the coolant flush that should be done rate away if a person bought the tuck. IMO
Arp's are the best bang for your buck. There are other kits out there but they are usually more expensive.
If your tearing into the truck to do coolant flush/egr delete/oil cooler. I'd look into the blue fuel pressure spring and stand pipe fittings/STC fittings. Cheaper parts that are common issues to address while your in there for reliability. Something you might want to add to the list.

[ironlemon]

I had asked the salesman about the oil cooler: and he said they have never had a problem with that part. He did admit athat the egr caused many problems and fear of the 6.0.
I plan on putting in a oil cooler later, with the stainless screen. What aftermarket brand, or an updated stock one?
C to pay for it I need to cut my milo, and it isnt dry yet, So offering to pay for half of the arp stud kit, reasonable? Is there something wrong with stock ford gaskets.
I can do the oil cooler, and blue fuel spring myself.

[JIM_C]

That's why he's a salesman. Many EGR cooler problems start with a clogged oil cooler.
What coolant are they going back in with? Good quality Cat EC-1 rated ELC is not any more expensive than the Ford gold. I paid about $17 a gallon at Napa for Zerex ELC.
Stock Ford gaskets are fine - get the ARPs put in while it's torn down even if you have to buy them cases of beer, whatever - it's the best time to do it.

[ironlemon]

Ive made it very clear to them about the arp studs, put them in or im not interested. They wont even get to the truck for around 3 weeks so im going to make him worry about it lol. I know how those evil salesmen work I can do the oil cooler myself later, right? along with the egr delete, and blue fuel spring thingy. The will probably use fords antifreeze or the green stuff, i will change it out with archer ( i buy all my petrolium products from them). Best oil you can buy btw, even though most people have never heard of them. Is their 14k asking price fair? Im trading in the s10 but they dont need to know that yet, and im going to pull the well i have to put this in later card and its going to cost $$$$.

[Lilpooh]

Don't use the ford green coolant. It needs to be a silicate free coolant.

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