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livewire or the x3

well guy i sold my old x3 and gauges thinking i want a live wire but i have read some post on here now im not sure so i want your opinion. If you had to do it again would you go live wire or x3? and why not the live wire?
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X-3 and gauges. Why? Personal preference, and the fact that you advertise to thieves that might want to break into the truck to steal the livewire.

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X3 and an Edge Insight for monitoring. The Livewire isn't real good as a gauge replacement. The Insight will let you monitor more stuff in a small package than individual gauges. You will still need individual gauges if you want to monitor fuel and oil pressure.
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i hate my LIVEWIRE lol. i like the sct part but the liewire is just cheap and bulky. i was planning on mounting on my window but you cant see the road if you do. they say it can view over 70 parameters. but you have to download them on there, only about 8 things you can watch with out downloading and the important parameters need to be downloaded. i wish i could do it all over again but now have wasted how ever much the price diff is. so my livewire lays on my floor, not even turned on. i cant get the livelink to work to download the parameters onto the sct. so thats my two cents. but i love the tunes

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thanks for the help guy i think im going to get the X3 and gauges again. im glad i didnt buy the livewire i didnt like the idea of having to tune it on and off every time you get in and out. and as for the edge insight if every one says you cant trust the stock tranny temp gauge dosent the edge insight just read off the factor sensors? i was thinking about getting egt, boost, tranny temp and fuel pressure is there any other gauges i should think about getting?

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I would go with the X3 and gauges. I bought a Livewire the tunes are great but it is big and there is nowhere to put it. And when you turn the truck off and on you have to restart the Livewire every time it is a real pain in the ***.
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yup i wish i could switch. worst decision made for my 6.0 but you also want to watch your engine oil temp (eot) and engine coolant temp (ect) and make sure they are fairly close. if they arent within 14 degrees or something like that, you got a problem

some one could prolly verify the exact amount but its something like that.

i should have listened to everyone about the livewire. the pictures they have in there ads make it look small but then you get it and its huge. i wish i could trade for x3 and gauges but good luck with whichever you choose

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stupid question but why must the engine oil temp and the coolant temp be so close? and if wasn't what could be the problem? thanks jeff

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stupid question but why must the engine oil temp and the coolant temp be so close? and if wasn't what could be the problem? thanks jeff
The oil cooler has coolant passages going thru it so it cools the oil down. When the cooling passages get blocked up in the oil cooler from coolant corrosion and casting sand, it can no longer cool the oil like it's soppose to. Also the coolant travels thru the oil cooler prior to going to the egr cooler. When the passages are blocked in the oil cooler you will not get enough or any coolant going to the egr cooler. This can cause the egr cooler to fail.

When the temps get more than 15* apart from each other, It's a good indication that the coolant passages in the oil cooler are getting blocked up.

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what he said hahahaha /\ /\ /\

hey i was only one off with 14 degrees

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