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Old 01-20-2009, 08:01 PM
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Just for the record Ford doesn't recommend Diesel Kleen for the 6.0 liter and the 6.4 liter diesels they recommend there own diesel additive which I switched to last fall and have seen a definite difference.
Diesel kleen is for the 7.3 and older diesel engines. Do what you want but I would think ford should know what is best for their engines and I am going to do what ford says as I still have warranty left on my truck and am not taking any chances on them telling me I used the wrong additive.
So you keep shelling them money
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:40 PM
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here is the info
[PM-22-A] Motorcraft Diesel Cetane Booster and Performance Improver(PM22A)
SKU: PM-22-A
Size: 20 oz.
Fuel Treatment(Gallons): Treats 125 gallons
Manufacturer: Motorcraft
MSDS data sheet: Details
Shipping Details Details
Specials & Discounts: Details
Note: This ultra-low formulation can be used in engines required to meet 2007 emissions requirements (e.g., Ford's 6.4 L diesel engine) and is backward compatible as well (i.e., can be used in Ford's 6.9 L, 7.3 L, and 6.0 L diesel engines).
Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) Compliant
Specially formulated for diesel engines to combat the effects of poor-quality diesel fuel
Boosts the Cetane Rating (fuel ignitability) of diesel fuel for improved starting performance
Increases power
Smooths engine operation
Improves fuel economy
Adds lubricity to fuel to reduce engine wear




[PM-23-A] Motorcraft Diesel Anti Gel and Performance Improver(PM23A)-REPLACES PM-18-A
SKU: PM-23-A
Size: 20 oz.
Manufacturer: Motorcraft
MSDS data sheet: MSDS data sheet
Shipping Details Details
Specials & Discounts: Details
Note: This formulation can be used in all 2006 and 2007 Ford vehicles equipped with the 6.0 L diesel engine. It cannot be used in the new 2008 6.4 L diesel engine or any vehicle that requires ultra low sulfur diesel fuel. New product formulations meeting requirements for ultra low sulfur diesel fuel vehicles are being finalized and will be available at a later date.
Specially formulated for diesel engines to combat the effects of poor-quality diesel fuel
Helps prevent gelling of diesel fuel in lines, filters, and tanks
Improves starting ability in cold weather
Smooths engine operation
Improves fuel economy
Each 20 fluid oz. bottle treats 125 U.S. gallons of diesel fuel




Also available in gallons

[PM-22-GAL] Motorcraft Diesel Cetane Booster and Performance Improver_GALLON(PM22A)
SKU: PM-22-GAL
Size: 1 gallon(128oz)
Fuel Treatment(Gallons): Treats 1000 gallons
Manufacturer: Motorcraft
MSDS data sheet: Details
Shipping Details Details
Specials & Discounts: Details
Note: This ultra-low formulation can be used in engines required to meet 2007 emissions requirements (e.g., Ford's 6.4 L diesel engine) and is backward compatible as well (i.e., can be used in Ford's 6.9 L, 7.3 L, and 6.0 L diesel engines).
Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) Compliant
Specially formulated for diesel engines to combat the effects of poor-quality diesel fuel
Boosts the Cetane Rating (fuel ignitability) of diesel fuel for improved starting performance
Increases power
Smooths engine operation
Improves fuel economy
Adds lubricity to fuel to reduce engine wear

I know some think I am stupid to stick with Ford but if you buy a company's product who do you think knows it best? the manufacturer or some shad tree know it all?
My dealer is not the dealer I bought my truck from and they have been great to me and i will not risk screwing it up by not following what they recommend. It has worked great in my truck and that is all I care about as it is my money that I am protecting. They have come and picked my truck up twice at no cost to me to get it worked on.
The only major thing that has gone on it has been the generator/alternator that was defective from the beginning we just couldn't prove it until crapped out last fall. It was still under warranty so they fixed it on there dime and I am happy.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:46 PM
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shdwlkr -- Thanks for the info, man!! I appreciate.

Where do you buy that stuff? Dealer only? Is it available anywhere else? (I will try and Google it and see what happens. But probably can't ship that stuff, so internet purchase is out?!?)
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:54 PM
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Only place I have found it so far is at a ford dealership. I would pick one that has sold lots of diesels and has some real diesel mechanics as are the ones that seem to have it and move it.
Like I said my dealer is not who I bought my truck from but we have kept mine running and that is what matters to me. My mechanic that works on my truck has also put a few changes on the truck which has helped. Did the flash to help it start better in the cold and it has worked and the glow plugs don't stay excessive long like they used to. So I am very happy with my dealer and we talk about all the mods folks have done to there trucks and I have seen a few that where toast because of it and one that claimed the truck hadn't been chipped or modded but even I could find a few mods just looking at it and the engine was being replaced totally the owners cost but he didn't care as it was a toy to him and he had the money to burn. If you play and it breaks you have to realize you are going to pay.
I plan on putting a larger exhaust pipe and a larger fuel tank and a gauge or two or three and that is it I am done with changes and hope to be driving the truck 10 years from now.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:10 PM
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just found this site
dieselfiltersonline.com/Fd-4604-Motorcraft-Fd4604-Ford-6-0-Liter-Turbo-Diesel-Fuel
they have the additive and in gallons also
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check powerstrokehelp.com and open the video on the title page he talks about additives
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:24 PM
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I have seen the video and based on that and talking to my ford dealer I am running ford's additive. Would use stanadyne if I could find it but for the money I am happy with fords and like I said my truck is running better since switching form diesel Kleen which was made for the 7.3 L and older diesels.
You have to use what you can get even if it might not be the very best. One thing that some still don't get is that most diesel fuel is at 40 cetane or less as there is no stand for cetane in this country and most engines are designed to run at least 45 cetane and when you get your new truck from ford it might have 50 cetane or better in the tank so it runs real good until you go fill it up. Now in my truck ford's additive works great in yours it might not but you will never know until you try it and if it doesn't work go find another additive that is good like diesel Kleen, stanadyne, lucas and find which one your engine likes and stick with it.
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shdwlkr - Thanks for the reference and info, you are a world of help. I will invest in some of that and see if there is any difference in my trucks get up.

geoff - That is a great site, thanks for referring me. That dude has a good amount of really useful information.

Cheers.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:12 PM
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On another site I am on they were saying that ford diesel additive is really standyne the best you can get.
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On another site I am on they were saying that ford diesel additive is really standyne the best you can get.
Interesting. I guess it comes down to which one is cheaper.
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