Looking to buy an '05

[Brew_WY]

I am heading down to SLC this weekend to look at an Excursion I have put on reserve. I purchased an Edge CTS Insight to be able to look at a few parameters while I test drive and start it. Also to check for any DTC's. Here is a link to the X I am going to look at in particular.

2005 Excursion

I had Tously Ford run an Oasis report for me because my local dealership sucks. I don't know if this is an incomplete report, or if there isn't much info available on this particular vehicle.



Autotrader Ad-Carfax can be seen from here.

What are the most common areas that rust on these vehicles? I plan on checking the shaft play on the turbo, delta T between the ECT and EOT, FICM voltage with the key on, cranking, idling, driving. Obviously look at the exhaust for constant/excessive white smoke. Anything else I should be looking for with this 6.0? Thanks for the advice.

Cheers,

Brew

[powercat]

I'm a rookie and i would say that i know just enough to be dangerous, but i don't know that much - Only what I have learned thru Eli's 6.0 crash course. I did however just buy an 05 X and i can offer some of my experiences. I also just bought an Edge Insight CTS and i love it. Can monitor so many things.

you are correct in checking the temp deltas and FICM volts. Mine is a slight slow start which may be a STC valve issue.

Based on the production date you may have an 04 engine. you can look on the passenger side valve cover for the stamp. The tell me the 04's and 05's have different issue.

Mine hasn't had engine issues (knock on wood), but I did have to replace brake pads and rotors, tires, bushings on track bar, steering stabilizer,batteries, oil change, coolant flush, etc.... Be sure to negotiate the cost of repairs into the deal including any hidden issues into the deal. I was able to talk the dealer down about $4k which i thought was a good deal.

good luck

[slandry786]

I think all the 05 excursions have 04 motors my 05 has an 05 build date but an 04 motor

Look for any signs of coolant puking and if you can check coolant press

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[Six0~Stroker]

Good start on having a CTS ready for looking over the truck before purchase... That way I don't have to tell you your not ready to buy (inside joke)

You sure seem like you know what you are talkiing about.

I would also check:
Degas bottle cap perimeter for any puking.
see if its studded or OEM bolts (drivers valve cover)
EGR delete?

I don't really know what to answer about the rust.....Check Everywhere. Frame, engine bay!


Also, 03-04 engines do not have the STC fitting that fails on the newer trucks


Good luck with the purchase

[Brew_WY]

Originally Posted by Six0~Stroker

I would also check:
Degas bottle cap perimeter for any puking.
see if its studded or OEM bolts (drivers valve cover)
EGR delete?

I don't really know what to answer about the rust.....Check Everywhere. Frame, engine bay!


Also, 03-04 engines do not have the STC fitting that fails on the newer trucks


Good luck with the purchase

Yeah I planned on checking the Degas bottle and the studs, just forgot to list them. Thanks. STC fitting isn't ringing a bell for me, so I guess I will go and read about that now.

[Six0~Stroker]

05+trucks no start while hot is a high pressure oil leak usually caused by a faulty stc fitting, bad stand pipe, or bad dummy plugs


But as was said 05 excursions MOST LIKELY had an 04 engine and those problems do not occur on older trucks!



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[Brew_WY]

Originally Posted by Six0~Stroker

But as was said 05 excursions MOST LIKELY had an 04 engine and those problems do not occur on older trucks!



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Yeah I just wanted to know more about it for my own knowledge. I saw where you had said its not an issue for the '04 motors. Since this truck was built 8/10/04 I am fairly sure it has an '04 motor in it. Someone had mentioned a sticker/stamp on the motor. What indicates a "2005 Engine"?

[slandry786]

There is a sticker on the valve cover that has the year but if I'm thinking right it's on the passenger side and it's hard to see

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[Brew_WY]

Originally Posted by slandry786

There is a sticker on the valve cover that has the year but if I'm thinking right it's on the passenger side and it's hard to see

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So I assume it just blatantly says 2005. I plan on bringing a mechanics mirror with me for my inspection anyway.

Cheers,

Brew

[powercat]

here's what my sticker looks like