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Old 09-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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Help! I got 15 ozs. and i dont mean a fish!

Just got the new Super Swamper 33" STS's rotated and balanced because the back ones are worn about 3/16 more than the front at 1k miles. Well went to Merchants tonite. They said it would take an hour. I havent really felt any vibrations but i doubt i would anyways with dual steering stab now. Over 3 hours later they give me my truck back. They could not get the things to balance. The place in town that mounted them didnt have a real problem. They just put all stick on weights in the center of rim and it was pretty decent ride. I think the most i saw on one tire was 5 oz or so. Well they put 1 WHOLE box on 1 tire tonite. I think it was in the neighborhood of 15 oz. Thats crazy. Tonite they put stick ons in the middle and knock ones on the inside edge. I dont really feel a vibration but i do feel a shimmy now. They knew it wasnt right, because they didnt charge me. I can feel a little shimmy in the front end. What kinda balancing methods should i try on these. Normally i dont hear of many problems with 33's. Its got me baffled but i have enough lead now to make decoy sinkers for the next 10 years!
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:08 PM
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there really isnt anything you can do, i had a set of Pro-Comp X-terrains and it took 16.5 ounces the last time i had them balanced! the tires you have are meant to be off road only and will never balance perfectly in my opinion.
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I think i should specify the tires again. Super Swamper STS Trxus All-Terrains. They are the load range E's.
Thanks though.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:16 PM
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i have heard so much good things about Toyo MT's, that i would not even think about buying another brand, they are quiet and balance extremely well for a mud tire!!!
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:17 PM
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i realize what you have, they are still an aggressive tire in my opinion, i was just trying to make a comparison on my old tires that were also aggressive and how much they took to attempt a balance! didnt mean to sound dumb!!!! LOL.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:23 PM
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Airsoft?

I searched before i posted, and i saw what people in the past have tried and done. Didnt find anything about Airsoft pellets yet. Heres what im thinking. Looking at this chart, looks like i need 8 oz Aggressive Tire Chart
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the toyos are just way too overpriced though. there are many many other high quality mud terrain tires available in big sizes and load range "E"


doug: you need to take your tires back to another shop and have them done by someone who knows what they are doing. this shop obviously has people who are not experienced in what they are doing.

yes, bigger tires are harder to balance and take more weight. and unfortunately, yes swamper brand is infamous for being hard to balance, but like you said, you had no problems before with the same setup. i would go back to the place that did them the first time, but there are several things to consider. if all you did was have them rotated, there should be no reason to re-balance them.

but i have mounted / balanced tires for my buddy in his shop many times when his tire guy was unavailable. and i can tell you that BEFORE I WOULD EVER put a pound of weight on a guy's rims, i would dismount the tire from the rim and "clock" it 180* and rebalance it. this usually helps. brand new tires come from the factory with marks (usually a red dot or a colored chalk mark) denoting the heavy or light part of the tire. real tire guys use these to mount the heavy side opposite the part of the rim where the valve stem goes. that way the weight of the valve stem couteracts the extra weight in the heavy side of the tire. if your tire shop doesnt know these basic tricks, i would go eleswhere.

there is no excuse for that much weight on a 33" tire doug. i wouldnt ever allow that much weight on a 36" tire for that matter, especially an ALL TERRAIN
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airsoft ?? where did that come froM ? what did i miss ?
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:29 PM
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what i would do is take them to a known shop, and ask themn to "roadforce" balance them. they will put them on a balancer and put pressure on them while it spins, that is the best way to get a true balance on oversize tires. i also found this site. i dont know how good they work, but i havent heard anything bad about them either.

Onboard Tire & Wheel Balance Systems, Tire Rotation, Tire Balance, Tire Balancing - Centramatic
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LvTitan is 100% right. Try that first. I have had several balancing problems with different tires and had them "road forced" like what Rob suggests.
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