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post #1 of 24 Old 09-03-2013, 07:47 PM Thread Starter
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Buying first diesel and having issues.

I'm looking at an '06 6.0 with 46k miles on it. The tech at the dealership reported that it would need ficm 1/2 shell, turbo cleaning/replacement, and cac boots among other minor things. I check the degas bottle and it was a dark brown color but no oily, milky or chalky residue signs.
I drove the truck from the dealership across the street to the free way on ramp. As I hit 80 mph it started hissing bad. It didnt do it friday when i drove it and the salesman agreed there is a problem. I assumed it was either the turbo but sounded like an exhaust leak(to my untrained diesel ear). It increased with the throttle and while under a load at first but by the time i returned to dealership, it would do it while reving in park. I checked the degas cap and it looks like it is sealed. No oil or smoke from exhaust, degas or oil cap. I walked away tonight but the dealer is having the tech look at it and will update me sometime tomorrow.
I didn't notice the boost on the first test drive but seemed like it wasn't bad on the failure ride today. It didn't get past 20lb but I figured turbo need cleaning. Nothing unusual about boost levels.
I'll be buying this as is. They'er asking 21k. Any advise would be appreciated. This would be my first diesel(truck). Not afraid to learn but don't want to do it the hard way.
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Thats WAY high for the issues it has. WAY high.

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That's what I was thinking too but it is a 4x4 lariat dually. I don't mind doing the work/learning but buying turbos... And I don't know if the hissing noise is a problem that requires a cab removal solution.

Is the brownish color in the degas bottle a serious issue?
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Two years ago I paid 22k for my 2007 KR with no problems , They are ripping you off

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I just picked up an 06 CCSB 4x4 FX4/Lariat sunroof truck with a 4inch lift and 150k on an egr deleted otherwise unmolested engine for just over 15k.

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Ill jump on deck and say ya the 22k is a bit high. The good thing the issue's that you stated are all very easy diy projects. The ficm is as simple as pull and the get it repaired or get a new one. The turbo, this too iss is a pull and clean yourself.
The exhaust leak, well they can be a PIA to find and fix but you can do this as well.
But the biggest thing Id suggest is you get some type of monitor on the truck before you talk money. The dash guages are junk. You can spend $150 and save thousands.

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Nice rig Qh. I'm not in that big of a hurry but do need something. I figured with the low miles it would be worth talking to a dealer. I may offer 18 and settle for 19 but I'm not afraid to walk away at all. The brown film in the dega was my major concern but no one here has raised a major issue with it.
If I get it I'm sure you will hear more from me. Thanks for all the input and the price opinions.
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My degass bottle had this same brownish film. It wasnt oil, Im not sure it was kinda like rusted? But I tryed to wash it out with no luck. But I asked about the same thing and didnt get much back...I wondered if maybe the ford gold just stained it.

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I'd walk away. There's plenty of low mileage King Ranch and Lariat dually's out there for the same price. If the turbo is in need of cleaning then there's a possibility it could've overboosted at one time... not exactly a death sentence, but if someone kept driving it with an overboost condition then you're looking at head gaskets.

IIRC the casting sand Ford uses can stain degas bottles to that brownish color

I agree, get a monitor. I went with a buddy of mine to look at an 03' 6.0 Lariat FX4 CCSB. 154k miles for $8200. Truck was cosmetically great with normal interior wear for the year. It ran and drove just fine, and even though the truck supposedly had a new HPOP installed recently, the oil temp just kept rising. By the time we got back to the guy's house, it had a 22* delta. No telling how long he's been driving it like that too.

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Sales guy called me back and said it was the exhaust manifold and they are fixing it. Would this be an indication that it has seen excessive heat? Ive read up pipe issues but do manifolds just fail? I'm leaning more towards walking now.

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