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post #1 of 19 Old 06-16-2013, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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2006 6.0 No start condition. Only Cranks

My 2006 f-350 6.0 with 101,000 miles only cranks and will not start.
Here's where i'm at and the trouble shooting I've done.
1. Checked oil level.
Result: oil level ok
2. Drained diesel from primary and secondary filter housings to check for water. (there was no "water in fuel" notice.)
Result: No sign of water in drained diesel.
3. Removed intake horn and sprayed starting fluid into manifold.
Result: Motor popped off on starting fluid.
*Now I suspect motor is not getting fuel.
4. Checked fuel pressure at test port on secondary fuel filter housing.
Results: KOEO fuel pressure at 50 psi. Engine cranking, steady 50 psi.
5.Checked FICM voltage.
Results: KOEO 48.5 volts. 48.8 volts while cranking.
*FICM voltage is at appropriate levels.
6. Located ICP sensor and attempted starting with harness unplugged.
Results: Just cranked, no start.
7. Removed ICP sensor. Tested HPO system with 1500 psi gauge. While cranking gauge read zero. Attempted to use smaller gauge, still read zero.
(This test was done while the icp sensor was unplugged.)

So here I am on a mission to diagnose this..
What can I do next?
Do I have a faulty IPR valve?
Is it the HPOP itself?
Is it the fittings on the HPOP?
Is there anything else I can do before diving in and removing the turbo to access the HPOP and the HPO system?

Any responses would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Do you have access to gauges like a scangauge! If you put a mechanical gauge in the icp port you have no hpo.
What you want to do is look at the % the IPR is at. If you are above 40% at crank I am going to say you have a hpo leak.
Question: has the STC fitting been updated on your 2006 engine? If no is your answer its most likely your problem.

Pick yourself up a ScangaugeII at Auto Zone they are on the shelf for $160.00. You plug into the OBDII port and you can troubleshoot everything yourself.


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Regardless of the results of the ScanGauge II, you will need to air up the HPO system to find the leak. I believe you are #4 in the past week. You need a M12x1.5 adapter (which you might already have) and you apply about 100psi air to the HPO manifold at the ICP sensor location. It will take a while to purge the oil rails and then you will hear it gurgle in the oil pan. You then close the IPR valve using Ford's IDS or AE, or you do it the old fashion way by using either a separate 12v plug (red wire 12v and yellow and red stripe GND) or you use the trucks plug and ground the Yellow w red wire. Of course KOEO and don't leave connected too long because it heats up the IPR coil. You will probably need to pull valve covers and perhaps other covers to find the leak. A HPOP will show as noise in the oil filter holder.

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My fittings have not been updated.
I have the HPOP removed and am upgrading the fittings and putting in a new pump and IPR since I am already in this deep. Also while my turbo is out I am going to break it open and clean it. Hopefully she starts when everything is back together.
Also would it be dumb of my not to put in an upgraded EGR cooler while I am at this point with everything tore apart?
Thanks for your responses!
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Not a bad idea at all.
If you do the standpipes and dummy plugs you got it all covered. But a bit more work of coarse. : )


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ARP Studs, O-Ringed Heads
X4 PHP 65 HP Custom Tow Tune
Atlas40 or Atlas80 Ficm Tune
CAT EC-1 Coolant, IPR Coolant filter
BPD Waterpump, BPD way of thinking
Fass-125 to a Adjustable Pressure Reg.
Turbo-back SS 4" pipe, Corsa Muffler -7" Tip
6.4 starter, DC Power 270 amp alt
Die Hard Platinum AGM all 2/0 Cables
Fabtech Radius Arms
7" lift w: Icon Progressive Coil Springs
2008 up Carli/Deaver rear springs
All riding on some Fatty-Daddy 38/15.50/18 Toyo's

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Ok sounds good I will look into that since I am already this far. Thanks for the help.
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Man I am having the exact same problem as you are. Mine killed while driving and won't start. Start with starting fluid and ficm test good.
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My STC fitting was shot. New HPOP, fitting, and IPR valve coming early next week. In the mean time I'm going to break open my turbo and clean it. Good luck diagnosing the problem.
Do you have sufficient fuel pressure?
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I am having the same issue,I have changed the heads arp studs, new injectors new ICP, checked FICM,new HPOP pump new oil cooler, EGR delete. When she is warm she starts no problem, if I let her sit 4 at least 2 hours she will not she will only turn over with starting fluid. I am a heavy duty mechanic, first time with a six point zero my other service truck was a 7.3 no problems. I know starting fluid is not good on glow plug type engines. But unfortunately I need to go to work. Please can somebody help.
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Jerod,
Did you replace your IPR valve?
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