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Old 06-02-2013, 08:51 AM
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Unhappy HELP 6.0 died due to bad needle bearing roller lifter / getting reman from ford

I'm at a ford dealer and they have pulled the LPOP off and it was all chewed up and they drained the oil and lots of metal pieces in it. They are tearing the engine down in the next day or so to be 100% sure but all the techs say it's the needle bearing and I'll need a new engine. I guess they've seen several had one just last month.The tech says he's going to fight for a whole engine not just a short block. This is also under warranty since I have the 200,000 diesel care. This is a 2007 F550 that is always under a very heavy load. It's has 146,000 miles and is maintained only by Ford. My main question is should I be getting a whole new motor/reman or just the short block? I've lost so much work because of this engine over the years I just want whats right and don't want to be taken advantage of. I'm no mechanic myself so any advice would be great? Also any thoughts on the reman motor and quality? Thanks in advance. Also thank you all for so much for great info on here I've learned more than I ever thought I would!

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Old 06-02-2013, 09:03 AM
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The reman motors are great quality but a very STEEP price. Ford remans are about $14000 before tax plus installation. It does however come with all new injectors, turbo, intake manifold etc. ready to drop in the engine bay out of the crate basically. If your not paying for it then yes I say let them do a long block swap. If they aren't paying for it then you have a major decision on your hands.
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Old 06-02-2013, 09:20 AM
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I'd short block it bc the time, effort and labor to pull the branch tubes, new lifters, and clean every single orifice on the motor with a cam change is gonna cost you around the same. The cam will be eaten up. It's fairly easy to see when you pull the HPOP off. It's always the same two lobes and lifters..


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Old 06-02-2013, 11:44 AM
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It will be covered under warranty. Im just wondering if their are some things that may have been damaged and not replaced if they only do the short block? If so I want to be able to make some valid points as to why they should do the long block. Glad to hear the quality is good though. Thanks.
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Old 06-02-2013, 12:13 PM
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I'd buy a set of studs and take them up there. They will stud it if you provide the materials. New oil cooler if they won't do it under warranty. The problem with a long block is they aren't going to stud it.. It's already assembled. If the heads are out of spec, the dealership knows its cheaper to buy a short block and heads separately than a long block. Plus you get it studded.


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Old 06-02-2013, 07:12 PM
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I was going to stud it and Ford says if I do anything to the engine it could void the warranty including the studs. I had planned on doing a lot to the engine like BPD oil cooler, EGR cooler, exhaust, Coolant filter, oil bypass, studs,switch to ELC coolant etc since my warranty was going to end in 2014 but now since I've had a lot of of problems with this engine over the years and this time it completely died. I've lost a lot of faith in it. I had thought the problems were fixable with what I planned on doing but this problem could happen again at 146,000 miles even with all my upgrades.I'm not sure I want to sink a bunch of money into it especially since I'll have a new two year warranty. I'm thinking about doing nothing to it and just sell it or trade it in a year or two but definitely before the warranty is up. It's just left me stranded too many times over the years and I go way overboard on maintenance to have the problems I've had. Heck in the last five months I've got a new intake manifold,alternator,batteries,thermostat,oil cooler,turbo,egr cooler,egr valve and I'm sure more I cant think of. I see a 6.7 in my future if Ford doesn't try to screw me over on this one. I just hate the the thought of more truck payments but I hate the thought of breaking down and no warranty also. Sort of damned if I do and damned if I don't' you know.

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I was going to stud it and Ford says if I do anything to the engine it could void the warranty including the studs. I had planned on doing a lot to the engine like BPD oil cooler, EGR cooler, exhaust, Coolant filter, oil bypass, studs,switch to ELC coolant etc since my warranty was going to end in 2014 but now since I've had a lot of of problems with this engine over the years and this time it completely died. I've lost a lot of faith in it. I had thought the problems were fixable with what I planned on doing but this problem could happen again at 146,000 miles even with all my upgrades.I'm not sure I want to sink a bunch of money into it especially since I'll have a new two year warranty. I'm thinking about doing nothing to it and just sell it or trade it in a year or two but definitely before the warranty is up. It's just left me stranded too many times over the years and I go way overboard on maintenance to have the problems I've had. Heck in the last five months I've got a new intake manifold,alternator,batteries,thermostat,oil cooler,turbo,egr cooler,egr valve and I'm sure more I cant think of. I see a 6.7 in my future if Ford doesn't try to screw me over on this one. I just hate the the thought of more truck payments but I hate the thought of breaking down and no warranty also. Sort of damned if I do and damned if I don't' you know.
Ford will stud a long block for you. You will just have to come out of your pocket for the labor and parts to do so. They will also install the BPD oil cooler kit. IT IS BETTER THAN THE FACTORY OIL COOLER. If anything was to fail in the motor later on than they have to PROVE that the head studs or BPD oil cooler or whatever else you put in was the CAUSE of the failure. Now if you buy a long block from Ford then you will have to run a EGR cooler as well and run everything stock. Just keep that in mind.
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I wish I had more faith or trust in Ford but I think they would do whatever they could to get out of a warranty and I really don't want to with deal a legal battle at some point.That being said I still may stud it and do the coolant filter if they do the short block but if they do the long block I won't pay the extra money and labor for studs on it since I'll be getting rid of it next year. It looks like a long block comes with a 2 year warranty and short block only a 1 year. I'm thinking of selling or trading it in next year so it would be worth more in a trade or sale if it still had a year of warranty left on it. I love BFD products just don't want to spend the money for only a year of use and if the engine blows up without them then Ford can put another engine in. They should just install BFD products from factory and we would all be much happier
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