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Old 04-19-2013, 08:33 AM
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New Tune....Now puking?

The title kind of explains my situation. I would like to point out that Im not blaming the tune or tune writer for my issues. Im a big boy and understand that you have to pay to play! AND that any performance tune even one written for non-studded trucks will bring out the gremlins that have been hiding in the truck! Now that Ive cleared that up.

I installed Tony Wildmans Extreme Tune about 2 weeks ago. I immediately noticed that EBP was much higher than before the tune. I chalked that up as "normal" with the new performance tune. I didnt call Tony and ask him if it was normal. The second thing i noticed was puking at the degas bottle. Unrelated, I have also noticed that my deltas are growing! What im trying to figure out is if I can get away with an EGR delete, new oil cooler install, or if I have in fact blown head gaskets and need to do the whole thing.

These are my questions:
1. Is the high EBP normal? (We are talking 10psi Boost to 20psi EBP)
2. Would a bad thermostat cause puking? ( Im almost sure my thermo is gone)
3. What is considered acceptable pressure in the degas bottle?

Any help you guys can offer is greatly appreciated.

Johnathan
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:51 AM
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Well you're deltas will be higher because a tuned truck is working harder than a non tuned truck, so that's just normal. Unless you're talking 10-15* higher than before, then you have a problem. Before you panic, how full is your degas bottle? The new full line is at or below the old min. line.
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Degas bottle is at the min line. My deltas are 15-20 degrees apart. I just picked up a new degas cap....we'll see.


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When are they 15-20* apart? If it's on flat land doing around 65 mph, then you have a problem.
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Quick question how wS tonys extreme tune for the 6.0?
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When are they 15-20* apart? If it's on flat land doing around 65 mph, then you have a problem.
Sorry......its been a loong work weekend. I had a feeling the oil cooler was plugging when my deltas got to 20 degrees on flat ground with no load running 65 MPH. Please keep the questions coming, I appreciate all the help!

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Quick question how wS tonys extreme tune for the 6.0?
Awesome. As some of the others have pointed out, the shifting could use a little modifying for my driving style. For me, mileage sucks with this tune in the city but its the best mileage ive gotten on the highway to date! Some of this could be other issues as well. I havent even asked Tony to change anything because Im already having other (pre-existing) issues.
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You are not going to like my recommendation, but...

You should return the truck back to stock for now.

Do a Coolant Flush and ELC replacement, EGR Delete, & Oil Cooler replacement.

After you do those things, wait a week, then put the tune back on.

I say wait a week to allow the air to purge out of the cooling system.

If after that you are still puking, then your headgaskets are bad.

But I would put the truck back to stock to avoid and further damage that may occur.

Good Luck
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You are not going to like my recommendation, but...

You should return the truck back to stock for now.

Do a Coolant Flush and ELC replacement, EGR Delete, & Oil Cooler replacement.

After you do those things, wait a week, then put the tune back on.

I say wait a week to allow the air to purge out of the cooling system.

If after that you are still puking, then your headgaskets are bad.

But I would put the truck back to stock to avoid and further damage that may occur.

Good Luck
Believe it or not, I actually do like your recommendation! This is exactly the steps that I have been contemplating. What Im unsure of, is if there is a way to test for bad head gaskets before taking her down for a new cooler and egr delete, that way it could all be done at once. Kind of a one and done.

Then again, financially, I may not have a choice but to follow the exact steps you have recommended.



Thanks for the help, its greatly appreciated.
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Believe it or not, I actually do like your recommendation! This is exactly the steps that I have been contemplating. What Im unsure of, is if there is a way to test for bad head gaskets before taking her down for a new cooler and egr delete, that way it could all be done at once. Kind of a one and done.

Then again, financially, I may not have a choice but to follow the exact steps you have recommended.

Thanks for the help, its greatly appreciated.
Well... puking from the advanced timing (tune) is a pretty good sign that the headgaskets are bad.

If it wasn't puking when the truck was stock, I'd put it back to stock and start saving your pennies to do a headgasket and stud job.

I understand the "wanting to do it all at once" mentality, but that never really works unless you have the coin to do it.

I'm in the same boat right now because I waited too long to do my EGR delete, but I kept my tune on.

Now that the EGR delete has been done and my oil cooler has been replaced, I still puke.

So the choice is up to you because the headgaskets will fail eventually with any tune IMHO.
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