6.0 turbo

[slick]

I'm having the bucking problem when pulling my trailer. I had the ecm update, egr cleaned and exhaust pressure and other recalls done, I know its a turbo problem so the dealer had me hook up the flight recorder while pulling the trailer, did that and after they looked at the readings i assumed they would replace the turbo but they said ford just came out with bulliten to clean and adjust the turbo. i work on saab cars for a living and I'm starting to get pissed anyone heard of this recent bulliten I'm familiar with all of the other bullitens



well I got er back and the problem was the egr valve, hooked up the trailer and 30 miles later she runs great

[harald@bd]

Haven't heard that one yet, marc will be able to update us on the bulletin.
Need to know!!!!!!!! quess they are getting tired of replacing turbos.

[mschn99]

DONT get me started on this BS.......im so ticked i cant even see strait...

We remove and disassembe the turbo now. If it is coked(carbon buildup) and the unison ring for the vaines is not cracked we clean it and replace the VGT for next to no extra pay

If it isnt coked, we replace the turbo.......if the unison ring is cracked, we replace the turbo........something tells me im going to have a new tool in my box shortly.....called a unison ring cracker

[mschn99]

ahhh....i cant help it, you got me all fired up now!!!!!

All this is is ford dumping the problem on the techs. They are sick of repeat turbo repairs and figured out that if they pay the techs to take it apart and do the same thing that is being done at the remanufacturing plant, they can spend less money on the repair...BUTTT it gets even better for the tech

If that truck comes back for a repeat repair, NOW ITS ON THE TECH since its a repeat repair and ford can decline the warranty claim the dealer submits on the basis of repeat repair.

[ndurbin]

Originally Posted by Marc

........something tells me im going to have a new tool in my box shortly.....called a unison ring cracker

Now Now Marc...........Mama Motorcraft knows best just like Mama Mopar does. I think you just want an excuse to buy a new tool.

[Rob]

i spkoe to a ford rep today from corporate ford, they tell me that a TSB has been released that covers turbo repairs at no deductible charge to the customer for 5 yrs 50,000 miles. If there is a tech out there please confirm this for me. I am on my 4th turbo assy. and dont want to take it back in. its as much of a pain in the patootie for me as it is for the service shop.

I replace turbos everyday. But I have not had a repeat turbo failure. I've had trucks with 20 miles get one and now have over 30,000 to 40,000 or more on the second turbo.

[Rob]

Any idea on what is causing these turbos to fail? Would i still have a problem if i went to a banks turbo? Im thinking the garrett's are just garbage since i am on my 4th in less than 13000 miles. Any advice?, fuel additives maybe? run a little harder, maybe wind it out a bit?

[Rob]

my last turbo assy lasted about 1 month and close to 1000 miles. Not a good sign if you ask me but im not a tech so i have no clue on why this would have happened.

[harald@bd]

Check this TSB out closely

Coolant Expelling From Degas Bottle:
Trucks built with the 6.0 PowerStroke engine may exhibit coolant loss, low coolant, or coolant blowing out of the degas bottle. First, ensure the coolant level is not too high and the expulsion is not due to normal expansion. The coolant level in the bottle at normal operating temperature should be at the MIN mark. 2005 trucks should be checked to see if recall 05B32 applies to them.
The coolant bottle cap should be checked to see if it is capable of holding 16 PSI, and it is sealing properly on the coolant bottle. Pressure test the cooling system to verify there are no leaks. Note: It is advised to either disconnect the right exhaust manifold from the right side turbo Y-pipe, or to raise the rear of the vehicle and remove the EGR valve to check for an EGR cooler leak. Failure to do so may result in a hydralically-locked cylinder. Repair any leaks as necessary.
Inspect the coolant for oil, which would indicate a leaking oil cooler. Check the engine oil sensor reading against the coolant temp sensor. An EOT that is 25 degrees higher may indicate a failed oil cooler. On Econolines, if the engine oil cooler is replaced, the heater core inlet hose should be replaced with part 5C2Z-18472-AA, which includes an internal restrictor. If oil is present in the cooling system, the system will have to be cleaned using a solution of 1/2 cup low-sudsing liquid dishasher detergent to six gallons of water, possibly up to three times. Flush the system afterwards with clean water.
If the coolant expulsion occurs under high load conditions, suspect head gaskets that are leaking compression into the cooling system. It may be necessary to test drive the truck with a pressure gauge TEE'd into a hose and the cooling system sealed so it will not vent to verify over-pressure. When replacing the head gaskets, it is necessary to install new head bolts--they are not reusable. There is a revised torque sequence and specification for the head bolts. The head gasket kits have been revised to include parts needed in the service, but the gaskets themselves are not updated. Recommend using kit 5C3Z-6079-B, which includes all parts for both sides of the engine and covers 2003-2005. You will have to purchase the two intake manifold to head gaskets, oil filter, oil filter base o-ring, oil vent tube o-ring and heater pipe to timing cover o-ring seperately. Note: The turbo should be checked for sticking/overboost to prevent reoccurance of the head gaskets blowing.
TSB 06-3-8.





Harald Harks

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