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Old 12-11-2012, 09:33 PM
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Just got a Livewire TS from Vivian and loaded the tunes from her on the unit and proceeded to the truck to transfer it over. I'm new at the process but just watched the screen for directions. Everything seemed to load good. I wasnt thinking and left the lights on during the upload and some other tinkering. When I went to start the truck it would not turn over it just flashed all dash lights and went dark. I shut the key off and tried again and same result. I then checked the voltage on the TS and it was reading 8-9 so I got the tractor out to just it and charge the batteries. The batteries are year old everstarts in the truck when I bought it. Theyre only rated at 650 CCA @0* so I dont think they are really addequate for a diesel around here. I had been having to crank a few more seconds on cold mornings than what I felt was appropriate before this all happened so I was in the process of buying new batteries. Well I never could get the voltage to increase while jumping the batteries. My cables seem fine. I did not start the truck since Monday at about Midnight and this all happened about 24 hours later. Im worried I fried something messing with the tuner, but then I am hoping the batteries were just bad and between letting it sit for a full day in 30* weather and then letting it sit with high beams on for 15 minutes is the reason it wont crank or even take charge. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:45 AM
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Baseically your not going anywhere for a while

Now I can't say for certain on the tuner but every electrical/electronic device has a low voltage threshold. It can't have done it anygood but maybe no real harm.

As far as booster cables unless you want to let it run allday with a brick on the pedal and pretend it's a trickle charger, your not gonna build up enough volts/amps to get it to start. Not with that low a charge and at those temps.

8vlt and below the PCM and FICM will not work so the injectors can't fire. The glow plugs wont work, the fuelpump isn't turning as fast as it should etc etc. Never mind being able to roll the engine over fast enough to generate enough compression to ignite the fuel/air mix.

Pull both batteries and charge them overnight a full charge or replace with good hot batteries.

Good luck.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:48 AM
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Plug the truck in assuming it has a plug? not sure if all of them that yr do or not and take the batteries out and get them load tested. If there is any question good or bad, replace them. Load testing will also bring them to full charge if they are good and she should fire right up if thats your issue.
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i would get new batteries.. 650 is nothing in a cold area.. mine are rated 800 CCA
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Everstart more like neverstart. Horrible batteries. The glow plugs are pulling about 300 amps, so you probably don't have enough current to crank and run glow plugs. Just my 2 cents. Put 2 new batteries in.

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Old 12-12-2012, 08:29 PM
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Finally got it jumped. Had to use the tractor battery for one side and jump straight from tractor to other side under hood. Then put everything back where it went and drove for awhile. All has been good. In the market for some heavier batteries. Thanks for the help.
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