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Old 11-03-2012, 06:43 PM
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New to diesel. Truck wont start.

I just recently purchased an 04 4x4 f250 and am having a no start problem. truck was idling strange as in it was loping and than while cruising through a parking lot died. When trying to restart truck it cranks but wont start. i think it is a fuel issue as it seems like it just ran out of fuel. when cycling key i can hear the injectors but i cant seem to hear the pump any more. need ideas as to what i should check first. thank you.
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When you cycle the key see if you can hear the hfcm on the frame run. Do you have a monitor?

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Old 11-03-2012, 07:43 PM
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no monitor. all stock except for exhaust. it doesnt sound like it is running at all. just hear the injectors and thats it
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Remove the FICM fuse take the cover off the upper fuel filter and remove the filter.
Have a helper turn on the key and see if fuel is entering the filter houseing, it should fill in about 4 seconds or so. No fuel comeing in the pump ain't running.
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A must have item is a scan tool of some sort to use while driving the truck, it can let you know if something is not doing what it should before you start having problems.
A good number of us use the ScanguageII which is a on the shelf item at Auto Zone for $160.00 and it is a code reader as well as a monitor that will show everything the pcm sees. Best investment you can make on your truck. There are of coarse many other ones out there with bigger screens and able to do the same and some more it's a matter of price and how much you are willing to spend.
A scantool will help you figure out whats going on with it now. Good luck with it.....
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Old 11-04-2012, 11:59 AM
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Well the hfcm is running now but still won't start. Working on getting the cap off the engine fuel filter. Once i do I'll see if it's fillng up. But I'm still at a loss as to what's wrong right now. There are no codes.
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Well pump is running.
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Pull the ficm relay, hfcm fuse, and upper fuel filter, crank it over and see if there are bubbles/combustion gases in the fuel filter housing. That is an indication that the injector copper seal(s) are bad.

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Old 11-04-2012, 02:21 PM
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i will give that a try tomorrow. thanks for the help so far
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Let me know if I can help you out with a monitor. I can get you hooked up with one for your truck. Sounds alot like a HPO leak or weak HP pump causing this. Need to definitely get a monitor in the truck asap. When you are cranking it are you seeing smoke out of the exhaust (smoke as in unburnt diesel as the engine isn't firing it) ?

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