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P0263
start by saying this is a friends 2005 6.0 PSD and i guess you would say im just a back yard mechanic trying to help a friend out.
starts fine but has a miss, lack of power , will barely move , some times stalls. he said it was idling rough on a cold start, then when driving became worse and could barely drive/move until it stalled . he let it sit for a minute or two while making some phone calls then cranked it numerous times. finaly she started and but still ran rough but he got it to my house and got a ride to work from my neighbor who also works at the same place. Meanwhile NO CEL i have a scanner and scanned it and had 6 codes P0263 CYl 1 Contribution p0266 Cyl 2 Cont p0296 Cyl 3 cont p2614 Cam position output p2617 Crank position output U1900 CAN Comunication their was no freeze frame data either so i cleared the codes and restarted the truck started and idled normal. its not until it really gets loaded down either wot pull or loading up the TQ converter(1st gear/BRK/GAS) that it starts to fail. it starts idling rough then gets worse and worse. everything seems normal ICP was 6.9 MPa or 1000psi @ idle and when reving on it i saw as high as 23 MPa or 3300PSI. so the HPO system seems fine the turbo was also working fine i could see VGT being demanded higher and lower. as boost came in while i could drive it. so no stuck vanes the only code that returned when it started to run rough was p0263. i also placed a amp clamp on all the injector harness feeds and all seemed relative to each other so i assume no FICM issues. im assuming the cam and crank codes are no concern and are just from his extended/numerous cranking on the side of the road trying to get it to restart. and possibly the cyl 2 and 3 codes are from him continuing to run it and it was running so rough the knock sensor couldn't determine where the miss was from im leaning towards a Sticking Spool Valve in #1 injector or a cracked copper fire ring and its pushing Combustion gasses into the fuel system. either way it needs injectors. what do you guys think. just want some input also this truck is out of warranty with 156K on it and the nearest dealer is over 150 miles away and they know their the only one and rape you on Towing/labor/&parts ? Last edited by johnt2k7; 03-05-2012 at 11:33 AM. |
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just to let anyone know & to those who may need this in the future.
it ended up being #1 injector throwing the code the cam and crank codes where from him excessively cranking it, to try to get it to restart and the cyl 2 and 3 codes being from him running it hard while it was still missing. i did a oil & filter change replaced the fuel filters and installed a blue spring while i had it. as well as #1 injector and the truck has been running great now for the past week and a half. also im assuming the reason the CEL didnt come on while all of this was happening was because he had a EDGE tucked away in the glove box that he never told me about until he came to pick it up? also good news is i got a new toy,i traded him my labor involved for his old truck rusted out 99 extended cab F350 7.3l PSD only has 187K, but the body is completely shot due to salt water damage. so it looks like il be sticking arround on the forums. just have to find another loaner to swap the motor into. Last edited by johnt2k7; 03-22-2012 at 09:00 PM. |
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I have had Many injectors go bad in 6.0's over the years and never had the cel come on, they were diagnosed the same way you did it, i use an edge cts now to monitor everything.
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One thing I did discover, when multiple crank , cam and injector codes were present, i would let the truck sit overnite, or until engine was cold, clear codes koeo, start the truck cold then scan it, seemed to pinpoint the faulty injector right away, just sayin' it worked for me.
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Just asking but if I re oring the # 1 injector will that help
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