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post #1 of 19 Old 02-22-2012, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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Crankshaft Position Sensor & ICP Sensor

Can anyone tell me where to find and how to change out the Crankshaft Position Sensor on a 2004 F250 6.0 Diesel?

Had a hard start / no start situation. Batteries are good, starter is good, fresh 5w-40 T6, Motorcraft filters (fuel and oil) and it threw two codes; Crankshaft Position Sensor and ICP. I have both and want to start with the easiest first. I searched the site but nothing is clear or everyone says its not that. I have the sensor and would prefer to go ahead swap it out.

Second is my ICP sensor. I had this replaced at about 135k when the EGR cooler went out. Iím now approaching 250K and I think it went out again. I read up on it and understand I need to remove the turbo to get to it but I went into my local diesel shop (the one that swapped it out before) and described the symptoms and he said sound like the same thing. I asked about him changing it out and how much because of the labor involved but he said they donít remove the turbo anymore. Now they have a tool where they go up from the bottom and change it out in less than 30 minutes. Has anyone else heard of this? If not can someone point me to a link for a step by step ICP replacement?

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The crank sensor code is likely from excessive cranking. I would go after the ICP first, do you remember the code exactly?

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Sinner6.0,

No, I dont remember the exact code but it was the ICP Sensor. I figgured if Im getting dirty I might as well change them both out. Its an 04 but late 03 engine. I cant find the CKP and I guess I will have to crawl up top and start digging around the turbo and see if I can find / locate the ICP.

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Blue Spring MOD
Warren 175/30 Injectors
EGR Deleted & Studded
Dieselsite Adrenaline HPOP
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The CKP is under the A/C compressor on the right front lower part of the engine.
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Thanks I appreciate it. I guess I will be crawling under there and removing the compressor. Next its on to yanking the turbo off so I can get to the ICP.

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Let me ask this, while I have the turbo off how hard is it to go ahead and put install an EGR deleat and relocate the oil pump?

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Not sure if I am coming to this to late but I just changed my CPS two nights ago as well and didnt have to remove anything. If you are still looking for its location I will crawl underneath and take a picture of the route I took if you think this will help better than words.
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Diesel Hunter,

Man that would be GREAT! Were you having the same symtoms? Did you have to replace your ICP too or did the CKP fix the problem?

Thanks in advance for the help and the pictures!

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Blue Spring MOD
Warren 175/30 Injectors
EGR Deleted & Studded
Dieselsite Adrenaline HPOP
Coolant Filtration System
MBRP 4" Turbo Back Straight Pipe
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Today is the day! Im yanking the turbo to get to the ICP sensor. Any last suggestions? Wish me luck. . . . . . . . I will take some pictures.

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2004 F250 4X4 6.0 Diesel "War Wagon"
SRW Crew Cab Long Bed Pushing 305,000 Miles
Running 5w-40 T6 with RevX
FICM PHP Eco Tune
Blue Spring MOD
Warren 175/30 Injectors
EGR Deleted & Studded
Dieselsite Adrenaline HPOP
Coolant Filtration System
MBRP 4" Turbo Back Straight Pipe
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suggestions? you should have started earlier in the day

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