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Old 02-19-2011, 02:22 PM
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"Diesel Induction Service"- really?

Is this a too good to be true answer to EGR and Oil Cooler problem?

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for heavily carboned intakes that tool will have no effect. you will still need to remove the intake and either pressure wash it or have it hot tanked. if you've never done it before you wouldn't even believe how hard it is to remove the sludge and buildup on an intake. solvents alone aren't enough

i actually have a similar version at work i'm supposed to "upsell". i see no value in selling it
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Old 02-19-2011, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for your input Sinner. I can see it working for a fairly new truck with minimal build-up.
I bought my truck at 117K and now have 126K and am just now finding out about all of these problems. Way too late for the solvent clean.
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Old 02-19-2011, 03:02 PM
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my intake at 55k was so sludged up i used solvent and unregulated shop air to blow most of the **** out of it and i still didn't get it all. i don't know what the previous owner used for fuel but it wasn't good.
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I think it's absolutely absurd that so much expensive maint. is required to keep this engine running properly. What the hell are engineers thinking..... dumping sooty exhaust into filtered intake air to reduce emissions. Look at all the crap this sooty exhaust screws up! Seems like the exhaust needs to be filtered before dumping it back into the intake or something. It just never ceases to amaze me the number of things they didn't get quite right with this engine before dumping it into the consumers lap. Seems like they are still figuring it out. D#$% EGR valve!!!!! They have freakin' expensive filters on everything, Oil, 2 for the fuel, and one the size of a smart car for the intake air so not a single speck of any kind of contaminate get into the engine and after all that dump nasty, sooty, black exhaust back into this beautifully filtered beast. I guess I need to be an engineer to understand the lack of common sense in this scenerio
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You can give engineers degrees but you can't give them common sense.
Has there never been a class action lawsuit for all of these problems? Is it too late?
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There have been and will always be dumb designs. Look at the dipstick adapter on a 7.3l. Everything looks good on CAD and blueprints. There are so many benefits to an EGR delete.
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6.4s actually use a small diesel oxidation catalyst on the egr up-pipe. doesn't seem to solve a whole lot. the valves still stick

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Has there never been a class action lawsuit for all of these problems? Is it too late?
there have been several failed attempts and i don't think there will ever be any successful ones. too many claims are a result of lack of maintenance.

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There have been and will always be dumb designs. Look at the dipstick adapter on a 7.3l. Everything looks good on CAD and blueprints. There are so many benefits to an EGR delete.
Actually, I've got nothing against cleaning up the exhaust so we can breathe clean air. Obviously if the engine can't breathe it's own exhaust I can't either. Just seems they would find a way to clean it up before dumping it into the already filtered intake air. Just seems like prevention is a better approach than tearing apart the engine to clean it every 20 to 50 thousand miles. A simple fluid style filter like the way a rainbow vacuum works would be a good simple start. Maybe using your used oil from your last oil change or something like that. I don't know, I'm no engineer.
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