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Rough running, White Smoke, Now no start

Hey I am posting this for a friend I have not looked at the truck personally but he currently has the truck at the shop. The truck is an 05. But about 3 weeks ago he was out driving the truck one night and came to a red light and after sitting there the truck just died and it would not restart but he eventually got it restarted after a while. He drove it home and said he really did not notice anything different than a week or so later it started acting up again. It started knocking real loud as he said and it just started smoking real bad, just white smoke. He thought maybe he got a bad load of fuel so he changed out all the fuel filters and he said it started running worse. He said he opened the water drain valve with the truck running to try to drain some fuel out of it and the truck died several times and now it wont start again. I think he got air into the system by opening the valve with the truck running.

But as of right now he towed the truck to the shop. I am not sure how much the guy knows about powerstrokes but he said he knew about diesels. I know he works mostly on gassers so I do not know. But he finally got around to it and said he determined that 3 of the injectors are bad. I am not sure which side or what 3 are bad. I assume it threw codes for these? I would not think you wouldnt get any codes if the injectors are bad. Is there a way to clean the injectors or basically does he just need new ones? Would this really cause excessive white smoke all the time?

I know the powerstrokes are setup a lot different than the cummins so that is why I am unsure. But I am here trying to learn to help my friend out. He is tight on money at the moment so any help would be great that could possibly help us.
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Anyone able to help me?
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I'm fairly new here to the site as well but I have seen several other posts in the forum mention similar things and it ends up being something else. I have seen advice from some of the best on here mention to get it scanned and tested because if you try to just start throwing parts at it you will end up spending a lot more money and still won't have it fixed. I'm still learning about the 6.0 as I have had an old 6.9 and a couple 7.3L but white smoke to me usually means moisture / oil. Have you checked the EGR valve or cleaned it? I have seen a lot of posts on here with that being the culprit. I'm sure someone on here will correct me if I'm way off but that is hopefully what this forum is all about. Good luck...

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Well it at the shop and the guy said that he determined it was 3 injectors through the diagnostic testing. But no the EGR has not been cleaned. I thought that may have been a possibility but as of right now the truck is sitting at the shop looking at a $1500 repair bill for 3 injectors. Is that a high price?
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Well it at the shop and the guy said that he determined it was 3 injectors through the diagnostic testing. But no the EGR has not been cleaned. I thought that may have been a possibility but as of right now the truck is sitting at the shop looking at a $1500 repair bill for 3 injectors. Is that a high price?
My money would be on a/the FICM (fuel injection control module) failure

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sell ford 6.0 for that price in repairs you could put a new 6.0 gas in a chevy 2500
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sell ford 6.0 for that price in repairs you could put a new 6.0 gas in a chevy 2500
Quit ****ting on everyone. If you don't have anything constructive to add, just leave. What's your problem man?

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To the OP: You need a way to monitor engine oil temp, engine coolant temp, and to read codes. The most basic,all in one package, is the Edge Insight. It could be a blown EGR cooler, plugged oil cooler, head gaskets or FICM. A code will show up for some items, but the EGR cooler/oil cooler should not have an EOT/ECT difference of greater than 15*. The injectors could be cause by low voltage from the FICM, there is a how-to on checking the voltage in the tech section of the forum.

The injectors have to be replaced or rebuilt by specialty shops. The cost of stock injectors is about $300 + labor to replace. If the FICM is bad, DO NOT buy one from Ford, look at Swamps or others that rebuild FICM's at a cost of about $450. Also check the EGR Valve it could be carboned up and not working properly, there is also a how-to in the tech section.

These trucks are expensive to run & maintain. I hope this didn't scare you off. Good luck!

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sell ford 6.0 for that price in repairs you could put a new 6.0 gas in a chevy 2500
I looked at your last bunch of posts, and they all are the same. I agree with gramps, if you have nothing to share/or anything helpful in the forum, I think this would be a good time for you to say goodbye.

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