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Old 09-17-2010, 07:53 AM
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Unhappy 2005 F350 Diesel, No power on take off and white smoke.

I have a F350 diesel, and have starting having issues in last couple of weeks, and really need some advice.

When I start the pickup, starts right up, but sometimes get a puff of white smoke. Let it idle for about 3-4 minutes then head off to work.

When I hit the gas to take off, I get a delay, bad delay, not your normal diesel lag, during this time, I get lot of white smoke. Finally when it kicks in, I get a puff of black smoke and then it takes off. No low end power at all. High end power, works just fine, or on the highway. But if I hit a traffic light, same thing all over taking off, and can be real dramatic in the delay.

Now here is the kicker, if I am running lots of errands in town and the truck is really heated up, (don't mean over heated), the symptom seems to get better. Fuel filter was changed about 2,000 miles ago. No dash indicators or check engine light. Everything is stock and no modifications.

Just divorced so can't afford a whole lot, so any advice on where to start would help. I read some other forums and tried disconnecting the EGR valve cable and drove around the block and that didn't change anything.

Thanks in advance,

-Julian

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Old 09-17-2010, 07:54 AM
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sorry if it wasn't obvious, but year is 2005
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:58 AM
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It sounds like an egr problem to me but it may be oil cooler. Here's a bump for ya so a tech can come along and tell you better than me
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:18 AM
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I know my recent experience isn't the end-all be-all to diagnosis to these type of symptoms, but for my takeoff lag issues the diagnosis was the oil/egr cooler failure.

I didn't have the white smoke but did have the lag and black smoke on takeoff. Why the lag I have no idea (back-pressure maybe? dealer also replaced parts and sensors related to back-pressure).

Sounds like the timing of this happening for you is awful (as the timing is never good to have a problem). I hope I'm wrong and its smaller issue like a EGR Valve or in need of Turbo clean, but that smoke would concern me (especially white smoke).

Look in your coolant bottle, make sure it only has coolant in it.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:26 AM
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Yeah, it sucks that's for sure. So what did they stick you for the oil/egr cooler? I have a buddy that has one of those diagnostics boxes to pull down the error codes, so maybe that might give me a clue too.

-Julian
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:38 AM
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I was into the 61st month of the 60 month warranty coverage but had only 90k miles. Ford and the dealer worked with me and I ended up with roughly a $700.00 bill. I did have them replace the serpentine belt ($110.00) since they were in there and I've got 90k miles.
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Yeah, I wonder if my extended warranty that I bought when I financed the truck would kick in.

-Julian
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:02 AM
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went out to start it a few minutes ago, starts right up, no problem, so while in park, I give it a little Gas, and you can feel it not getting the power, and a little white smoke, not the normal lots of smoke, but it is already probably 80 degrees outside, early morning when cooler, seems to be more of the smoke. Took it for another drive real quick and again the same issue, but see the black puff of black smoke when I hit about 2k rpms when the turbo seems to kick in.
Coolant level is fine, and put a napkin in the tank to see if there was discoloration, and seems normal, coolant is a little low, so added some water.
I checked the oil, and oil is good, see anything abnormal, except it's probably about time I change it.
Also when driving and experiencing the problem, don't see a dip in the oil pressure when the issue occurs.

This really puzzles me, cause I've been a troubleshooter all my life in the Computer world, so I am a troubleshooter by nature, I trouble shoot everything, fix my own appliances, and this is very frustrating trying to troubleshoot something that you don't have any experience with.

-Julian
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Pull your EGR valve out, and check for moisture in the intake. Need to get those codes to give us a better idea of what part is mad
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Yeah, it sucks that's for sure. So what did they stick you for the oil/egr cooler? I have a buddy that has one of those diagnostics boxes to pull down the error codes, so maybe that might give me a clue too.

-Julian
If your buddy's boxes only checks the OBD II error codes it is only a small help. You need a real scan tool that can do diagnostics and monitor sensors and such.

Having said that cold start issues and rough running until it warms up if fairly common. When I had that problem with mine the problem was a failing FICM. Check the FICM voltage when you are cranking the motor over and see if maintains 48v. If the voltage drops significantly you FICM is heading south and needs to be replaced.

Detailed FICM Repair Procedure


If your FICM tests out ok another possibility is injector stiction. If you can run a cylinder contribution test (with the fore mentioned diagnostic box) you may be able to see what cylinders have sticky injectors. If that is the case I suggest you add 2 bottles of Rev-X to your oil. It has cleared up almost every sticky injector problem it has been thrown at.

Let us know what you find out.
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