changed map and still problem - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 Old 10-23-2009, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
changed map and still problem

had the advice to chang the map sensor because of chugging and surging. had already cleaned the egr, turbo and reset the kam. just got the sensor put in today and still doing the same damn thing. any advice? Thanks Dan
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 Old 10-24-2009, 07:10 AM
Serving Our Country!
 
dxusmc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Le Roy, NY
Posts: 533
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
how are your fuel filters looking? I'm sure if you went through all the trouble of cleaning egr and the turbo that you probably already looked at these. So is your truck throwing any codes? Changing oil on a regular basis (preferably sooner than what the manual claims)

2004 F250 XLT 6" lift, 37" tires, zoodad, T6,
edge cs, k&n, revx, warn lockers, rhino bars
future: coolant filter, headstuds, bluespring, 4" turboback, tires..dam these tires

Marines 2004-2009
Army 2009-2013

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dxusmc is offline  
post #3 of 16 Old 10-24-2009, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
yeah fuel filters have 3 or 4 thousand km and engine oil and filter are under a thousand. the vanes in the turbo were not in bad shape at all, but now are perfect. when it is up to temp and running while travelling at normal accelleration it will drop all turbo power, but no rpm change and hear chugging through the intake, and i look at the exhaust and it dumps black smoke. don't have a code reader, but no check engine light comes on. maybe the vgt solonoid? i think they are fairly expensive though and don't want to buy one unless it is for sure the problem. kind of at a loss? Thanks for any help!
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
post #4 of 16 Old 10-24-2009, 07:30 PM
Powerstroke Techie

 
forddieseldoctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Saint Cloud, WI
Posts: 4,464
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
If it's blowing smoke and surging then it should have codes. It is pointless to try and diagnose the 6.0 without a good code reader.

Ford Senior Master Diesel Tech

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

IF YOU DON'T WANNA STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS
THEN FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM


Meet Double Aught
2000 F250

forddieseldoctor is offline  
post #5 of 16 Old 10-24-2009, 10:03 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ok i've got a friend with a code reader so i'll have him take a stab at it and then post up what ever we can find. Thanks
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
post #6 of 16 Old 10-30-2009, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
took truck to dealer this morning and had diagnostic check done. no codes came up and the service tech told me it is probably the aftermarket chip that is causing the problem. he said when they malfunction it can cause the truck to act up, so he removed the unit and also told me the pcm and ficm had not been updated with the current flash program so i had those done at the same time. truck seems to run good, but not as much power without the chip on. hopefully all done with this problem!
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
post #7 of 16 Old 10-31-2009, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
thought the problem was solved, but still doing the same thing. surging and chugging air back through the intake, so obviously it wasn't the programmer that was at fault, there is something else causing this, now i have no idea how to go about diagnosing it. i don't want to keep changing parts that aren't the problem. anyone have any ideas, im all ears. thank you
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
post #8 of 16 Old 10-31-2009, 11:43 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
ajpu1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jefferson, Ga
Posts: 673
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Does make a difference when you unplug the VGT solenoid?
ajpu1983 is offline  
post #9 of 16 Old 10-31-2009, 03:57 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
lipps_03king ranch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor
Posts: 16
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
yeah if i unplug the vgt solenoid it defaults to open, i think open anyway. i tried driving it like that for a couple of blocks just to see and it drives like it has no boost until way up in rpms, and has a way different sound, no whistlea and a deep tone, but didn't do any of that funky stuff like chugging and surging, and as soon as i plug it back in you hear the whistle come back. This problem is intermittent, but happens every time im driving.
lipps_03king ranch is offline  
post #10 of 16 Old 11-01-2009, 07:11 AM
Powerstroke Techie

 
forddieseldoctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Saint Cloud, WI
Posts: 4,464
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
did your unison ring in your turbo move freely when you were done cleaning the turbo?
Do you have an aftermarket air intake?

Ford Senior Master Diesel Tech

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

IF YOU DON'T WANNA STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS
THEN FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM


Meet Double Aught
2000 F250

forddieseldoctor is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome