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Old 09-11-2009, 12:40 PM
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HELP!!! Head Gasket or Oil Cooler, Or Both??

I need some feedback on this. My truck is at the dealer and I am having a problem with the coolant being pushed out of the reservoir. I know that this sounds like a head gasket but the Dealer through me a curve. They said that it could also be a oil cooler causing this problem. Next they said that this is more common then a head gasket leaking. Funny how he also said that the tech feels it is a head gasket. The truck is out of warranty.

Has anyone ever heard of this? The dealer said that this will cost $4,153.00 plus tax to replace the head gaskets and oil cooler. I am providing the head studs.

If the oil cooler is a common problem with this , I will replace it with the head gaskets. I have never heard or seen anyone post this on the forum.

Thanks in advance

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The dealer said that the temps betweent he coolant and oil are fin. I have been reading that if the temps are more then 25 degrees apart, this would indicate that the oil cooler could be bad. I have the EGR cooler blocked. Turbo has been cleaned recently. Dealer did say while the truck was there that the #1 fuel injector has been failing. Anyone advise location of #1 fuel injector. I would really want to know if the oil cooler can cause the same symptoms as bad head gaskets?

Thanks again in advance

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Well oil coolers are common problems. They get plugged up then slow the coolant flow down so it gets too hot, then goes into the egr cooler and gets super heated and flash boils out of your reservoir. I believe it is common practice now to replace egr cooler when doing the oil cooler. But i would just install an egr delete kit. If it is head gaskets good luck to you, thats a lot of money to spend. Have you considered doing the work yourself? there are a bunch of write ups on here that involve doing headgaskets and oil coolers in the truck. Good luck
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Well oil coolers are common problems. They get plugged up then slow the coolant flow down so it gets too hot, then goes into the egr cooler and gets super heated and flash boils out of your reservoir. I believe it is common practice now to replace egr cooler when doing the oil cooler. But i would just install an egr delete kit. If it is head gaskets good luck to you, thats a lot of money to spend. Have you considered doing the work yourself? there are a bunch of write ups on here that involve doing headgaskets and oil coolers in the truck. Good luck
Thanks Mike, I am sorry. I added the following info when you left this post. I do have the EGR cooler blocked. My friend said that he will do it for $1,400.00 for labor only. He will lift the body off. I only have seen the temp rise when I hit hills with the truck towning a 46 foot gooseneck with living quarters. I never heard the clutch fan kick in until I have this problem. It is just getting worse. Thanks for the response.
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It sounds like nows the time for you to do the head gaskets, 1400 isnt bad, and for another 240 bucks you can get the oil cooler kit, through in a coolant filter and never worry about the oil cooler again!
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It sounds like nows the time for you to do the head gaskets, 1400 isnt bad, and for another 240 bucks you can get the oil cooler kit, through in a coolant filter and never worry about the oil cooler again!
Here is another curve? Coolant filter?
Where can I get the oil cooler kit for this price? The dealer said it was more then that, but they are a dealer - they will be the highest in pricing.

Anything else I should know? While I have this apart?
*Head gaskets (2 different sizes)
*oil cooler
*coolant filter
*Updated Turbo drain tube
*one injector (#1 cyl)
*Inspect injector O rings
*Coolant Filter
*HPOP
*STC

Any tips about where I can get the parts at a reasonable price?

Thanks for all the info.

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I got my oil cooler rebuild kit from ford for 240. Coolant filter kit from thedieselsite.com for 130. head gaskets and studs i paid 650 from river city diesel. if you look around this site most of the sponsers are priced very fair and will treat you right!
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I got my oil cooler rebuild kit from ford for 240. Coolant filter kit from thedieselsite.com for 130. head gaskets and studs i paid 650 from river city diesel. if you look around this site most of the sponsers are priced very fair and will treat you right!

I bought the ARP head studs a few weeks ago. I would have bought the head gaskets but I am told there are 2 different listings for my year. Just my luck, my year had two listings.

I will search that site and also the sponsors of this forum.

Ah, a rebuild kit. I did not know that was an option. I would have thought I would have had to buy a new one.

You are one for answers and knowledge.
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If you are doing head gaskets, I would do the HPOP STC, the oil rail plug 0-ring and the updated turbo drain tube while it is apart. Also check the o-rings on the injectors. Might as well since you have it apart.
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If you are doing head gaskets, I would do the HPOP STC, the oil rail plug 0-ring and the updated turbo drain tube while it is apart. Also check the o-rings on the injectors. Might as well since you have it apart.

More curves.
What is a HPOP STC?
I need to replace one injector I will check/replace all the O rings on the injectors. Good idea.
The updated Turbo drain tube is much better?

Thanks for the help and info.
Rob
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the biggest problem with these things is the oil coolers-egr coolers and fan clutch if the engine starts to heat up on hills and the fan clutch does not engage the fan clutch may be a problem. the dealer should have tested it as part of the diagnosis. the fan clutch will engage at 215 degrees of oil or coolant temp. does not matter which. this can cause the same problems you are having and can cause overheating problems. i'm a ford diesel tech in southern arizona and see alot of these kinds of problems.
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