i just dont have the time to go out muddin, i work alot like all of you. Also, i dont really like the cleanup. I tend to get pretty nasty when i go all out and i just hate spending all weekend cleaning. plus i dont have anyone to go out with, and no one to come and get me if i break or get stuck. MAybe we could get our thinking caps on and make a poll of what the gys and gals want for ROTM. Just a thought. Oh yeah, almost forgot, i also appreciate everything you all and the sponsors/vendors do here for us. Thanks again.