alright fellas, THANKS for the positive input, I've got a friend who's bought 2 used fifth wheels from this dealership and he's had good look out of both of them, he flat out told me that they don't sell used junk, not quit sure on the specs, I know it's 32' but don't know anything about the weight, Keystone doesn't make this model Sprinter any more and I have'nt seen any specs anywhere, I'll look inside the cabinet door when I go to get it (hopefully) and see what the sticker says